The Spirit Of Christ I know...Christ-Mass..Christ gave it all..including his life His very soul...So you can give in the name of Saint Nicholas???? On what season???

The swine flu vaccine centers that will crop up all over the world in the coming months aren't completely useless: They will provide an easy way to identify large groups of really stupid people.

I may agree with them!!!

You know, getting vaccinated is not just about protecting your self, it is about protecting others. I am a healthcare provider and I got the vaccine not because I am worried about myself, but because I don't want to spread it to my two small children, or any of the patients I treat some of whom are quite ill with respiratory problems. Sometimes being careful is about other people, and not just about ourselves. HArd to see that when you are 21.

Right, Chris. It's that simple. Do Julie and her perspective qualify as "stupid" to you?

Chris must be talking about himself. Educated people get vaccinated.

They qualify as uneducated to me, Brenda.

I'm all for protecting your family and the health of others, no doubt, but know what you're putting into your body. For starters, the The vaccines that are being rushed out are untested on humans, and scientists still don't know why the 1976 swine flu vaccines damaged so many people's nervous systems...... See Moreyou trust them now? The swine flu is all fear driven and really is no more dangerous than the yearly flu that goes around. I haven't had any sort of flu vaccine in 25 years and guess what? Never had the flu! It's pretty easy to argue that you're MORE at risk getting the swine flu vaccine than if you were to actually contract swine flu itself!

All I'm saying is do your own research and make your own decisions. Don't get all of your medical advice from the pharmaceutical industry, it's in their best interests to keep you sick.

Thank you Julie! Well said!

What is the frickin panic. The mortality rates arent really that different from the regular flu. why is everyone all of a sudden in a panic. Save the shots for people who have to have it.

Darwin strikes again

i don't need to worry about protecting you Julie. If you and your kids get your vaccine you don't need to worry. Julie, don't you realize the swine flu vaccine is a live vaccine, which means you could actually spread it to your two small children just by kissing them. The chance is small, but possible. I'm proudto be part of a group of people ... See Morethat have decided not to pujt foreign chemicals in their body. Medicine is called practice because it is always changing. You can never know fully how a medicine is going to effect people in the long run. The only way to know how things will effect us is to give it to a large group of people and wait a life time. Think about it... we used to think Fosamax was perfectly safe, now we know that it deteriorates jaw bone. Most dentists won't perform a tooth extraction until their patient has been off of Fosamax for at least 6 months for fear of damage to the jaw. Nobody knew because they didn't take enough time to know the full extent of the side effects before making it available to the public.

The mortality rates may not be much different, but a much smaller number of people are susceptible each year, both because of vaccination and because the flu strains have been very similar year-to-year. This novel flu is striking a much larger number of people, so a larger number of people will die. And for people who haven't been vaccinated but haven't gotten the flu, you're being protected by the people around you who are vaccinated.

YOU MUST BE MAD. You have to have the swine flue vaccine. You students and young children are high on the list for sickness. At least one young child has died, and, one other one barely made it. Then the teens and on up from that age have to have it. Go get it.

People my age ARE kind of worried, but right now it doesn't seem to be much of a threat. As someone pointed out, the mortality rate is lower than for normal flu right now. Please stop acting as though twentysomethings are all bunch of stupid frat boys, it's insulting.

Also, it's really patronizing to act like we're being careless when we are the only uninsured age group in America and disproportionately affected by the high unemployment rates right now. I don't know how I would afford a swine flu vaccine even if I wanted one.

Pls click on this link, FYI:
http://products.mercola.com/swine-flu/20091103.htm

All, let us agree to differ in our opinions. Fact-based information: 1. the same precautions taken for groups of people considered highly susceptible to any communicable infection should be taken (i.e. infants, but NOT if less than 6mos; pregnant women; young children; elderly who are already immuno-suppressed). The most damage done by H1N1 is via... See More the M2 protein released in the lungs. ANTIOXIDANTS are powerful M2-inhibitors. The decision for a mother with two young children to be vaccinated is not a bad one. All health care staff should be vaccinated. H1N1 IS affecting young adults at higher rates than typical influenza. THERE ARE RISKS INVOLVED TO OSELTAMIVIR: Do not get vaccine if you have adverse reaction to typical influenza vaccine. Do not get vaccine if you have allergies to chicken eggs (according to CDC). Let us respect one another and wish each other a healthy winter season.

sas mitchell-- thanks for this link... i am listening to the interview now and am reading the info too... scary stuff.

Sas, it is good that there is room for opposing opinions in our society. However, just because someone is a Dr., wears a lab coat, and voices their opinions doesn't make them the "expert"! 1) this material is published on the web 2) you assume that this is "fair and balanced". The good Dr appears to have an axe to grind here. I am not sure why... See More. Who knows? Or is he truly trying to "Do No Harm" by providing us with available information. In most science there is some type of oversight of what is published and clearly this is not the case. The average person is not equipped to critically analyze research studies and the media often mis-characterizes study findings. So how do we make informed decisions? We read all we can about an issue and then make our decision. Except for some health care workers that may be required to have a flu shot others are left to decide for themselves. There is no government intervention. Remember there are lies, damned lies, and statistics and anyone use number to manipulate their argument. No treatment works 100% of the time and there are always unknown variables at work (like genetics). The economics of this is also part of the dynamics (as with any other pharmaceutical). We want to stimulate the economy don't we? :) In the end we should welcome opinions such as the good Dr's; it makes us a more educated consumer.

If you want to be better informed about H1N1 read this from WebMD http://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/features/is-the-h1n1-swine-flu-vaccine-safe . Educate yourself and then make an informed decision.

i looked at the info on webmd and i listened and read the info suggested by sas... i feel dr. mercola is much more thorough in his explanation of the real threat of the swine flu and the vaccine. it's true, i myself am not a doctor, but when i am a critical thinker and an analytical thinker! everyone should be, govt info has to be taken for what it's worth and often with a grain of salt.

I also just found out that Merck developed a swine flu vaccine 5 years ago!!! This is why we need health care reform. You cant make money in curing something only in treating it! Our wellfare shouldnt be a commodity. They knew this was coming, what possible reason is there a sortage of the vaccine, and why after 5 years has no testing been done on it, go be a guinea pig if you want.

Some people still consider it controversial. Right-wingers say it restricts freedom of speech because "one man's proud statement is another man's hate speech." I got that in my e-mail inbox the other day.

The right wing likes to call themselves "pro-life" ...I call them pro-rape & pro-hate [as in anti any life they find fault with]!

It's all a bunch of media hoopla.

Obama and his trolls Doreen? I couldn't agree more!!!!

I read the article ...apparently Mr.Holtz-Eakin's personal situation has not made any wiser about health care reform.

Having worked for two hmo's I can say that they don't care one iota for your well being. Only that you continue paying for something you will never get. I've recieved numerous calls from seniors, some war vets, having to make the chooice between groceries and medicine because their health insurance company stripped them of their benefits, their ... See Moremedicines and raised their premiums and copays. As my supervisor said to me on several occasions, "We want members, NOT patients. It may be immoral, but it's legal". For three years insurance employees were denied a raise because of "profit losses" but the president got a 28 million dollar bonus for Christmas. We don't have a "healthcare system", we have a "healthcare market". We are the only industrialized nation without healthcare for all it's citizens. The WHO puts us at 46 after Costa Rica in mortality rate. 62% of ALL PERSONAL BANKRUPCIES are a direct result of healthcare debt. These moronic fools who listen to O'Reilly, Limbo, and Beck are simply sheep who want to make the black man who is OUR PRESIDENT the sole reason for our country's present state. IT"S RACIST. The bigotry these evil people spew is beyond vile. If you're AMERICAN THEN SUPPORT YOUR PRESIDENT like when dubya was in office. You were "unAmerican" and "unpatriotic" if you said anything against Bush or Cheney. APPLY THE SAME DAMN STANDARD NOW AND BE AMERICAN...FOR ALL AMERICANS.

Well said, Erma!

Agree with Erma.